diff --git a/ts/models/message.ts b/ts/models/message.ts
index f426a523e..642b9d772 100644
--- a/ts/models/message.ts
+++ b/ts/models/message.ts
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@ import {
 import { QUOTED_TEXT_MAX_LENGTH } from '../session/constants';
 import { ReactionList } from '../types/Reaction';
 import { getAttachmentMetadata } from '../types/message/initializeAttachmentMetadata';
+import { expireMessageOnSnode } from '../session/apis/snode_api/expire';
 // tslint:disable: cyclomatic-complexity
 
 /**
@@ -1233,6 +1234,13 @@ export class MessageModel extends Backbone.Model<MessageAttributes> {
         expiresAt,
         sentAt: this.get('sent_at'),
       });
+
+      if (this.get('expirationType') === 'deleteAfterRead') {
+        const messageHash = this.get('messageHash');
+        if (messageHash) {
+          await expireMessageOnSnode(messageHash, this.get('expireTimer'));
+        }
+      }
     }
   }
 
diff --git a/ts/receiver/dataMessage.ts b/ts/receiver/dataMessage.ts
index c06ddda62..0d36cd26a 100644
--- a/ts/receiver/dataMessage.ts
+++ b/ts/receiver/dataMessage.ts
@@ -109,6 +109,7 @@ export function cleanIncomingDataMessage(
   if (rawDataMessage.flags == null) {
     rawDataMessage.flags = 0;
   }
+  // TODO This should be removed 2 weeks after the release
   if (rawDataMessage.expireTimer == null) {
     rawDataMessage.expireTimer = 0;
   }
diff --git a/ts/session/apis/snode_api/SNodeAPI.ts b/ts/session/apis/snode_api/SNodeAPI.ts
index c2330a9c7..380f04041 100644
--- a/ts/session/apis/snode_api/SNodeAPI.ts
+++ b/ts/session/apis/snode_api/SNodeAPI.ts
@@ -554,6 +554,8 @@ export async function retrieveNextMessages(
     handleTimestampOffset('retrieve', json.t);
     await handleHardforkResult(json);
 
+    console.log(`WIP: retrieveNextMessages`, json.messages);
+
     return json.messages || [];
   } catch (e) {
     window?.log?.warn('exception while parsing json of nextMessage:', e);
diff --git a/ts/session/apis/snode_api/expire.ts b/ts/session/apis/snode_api/expire.ts
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..829564aa7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ts/session/apis/snode_api/expire.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,258 @@
+import { isEmpty, slice } from 'lodash';
+import { Snode } from '../../../data/data';
+import { getSodiumRenderer } from '../../crypto';
+import { DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS } from '../../sending/MessageSender';
+import { PubKey } from '../../types';
+import { StringUtils, UserUtils } from '../../utils';
+import { EmptySwarmError } from '../../utils/errors';
+import { firstTrue } from '../../utils/Promise';
+import { fromBase64ToArray, fromHexToArray, fromUInt8ArrayToBase64 } from '../../utils/String';
+import { snodeRpc } from './sessionRpc';
+import { getNowWithNetworkOffset } from './SNodeAPI';
+import { getSwarmFor } from './snodePool';
+
+async function generateSignature({
+  pubkey_ed25519,
+  timestamp,
+  messageHashes,
+}: {
+  pubkey_ed25519: UserUtils.HexKeyPair;
+  timestamp: number;
+  messageHashes: Array<string>;
+}): Promise<{ signature: string; pubkey_ed25519: string } | null> {
+  if (!pubkey_ed25519) {
+    return null;
+  }
+
+  const edKeyPrivBytes = fromHexToArray(pubkey_ed25519?.privKey);
+
+  const verificationData = StringUtils.encode(
+    `expire${timestamp}${messageHashes.join('')}`,
+    'utf8'
+  );
+  console.log(
+    `WIP: generateSignature verificationData`,
+    `expire${timestamp}${messageHashes.join('')}`
+  );
+  const message = new Uint8Array(verificationData);
+
+  const sodium = await getSodiumRenderer();
+  try {
+    const signature = sodium.crypto_sign_detached(message, edKeyPrivBytes);
+    const signatureBase64 = fromUInt8ArrayToBase64(signature);
+
+    return {
+      signature: signatureBase64,
+      pubkey_ed25519: pubkey_ed25519.pubKey,
+    };
+  } catch (e) {
+    window.log.warn('WIP: generateSignature failed with: ', e.message);
+    return null;
+  }
+}
+
+async function verifySignature({
+  pubkey,
+  snodePubkey,
+  expiryApplied,
+  messageHashes,
+  resultHashes,
+  signature,
+}: {
+  pubkey: PubKey;
+  snodePubkey: any;
+  expiryApplied: number;
+  messageHashes: Array<string>;
+  resultHashes: Array<string>;
+  signature: string;
+}): Promise<boolean> {
+  if (!expiryApplied || isEmpty(messageHashes) || isEmpty(resultHashes) || isEmpty(signature)) {
+    return false;
+  }
+
+  const edKeyPrivBytes = fromHexToArray(snodePubkey);
+
+  const verificationData = StringUtils.encode(
+    `${pubkey.key}${expiryApplied}${messageHashes.join('')}${resultHashes.join('')}`,
+    'utf8'
+  );
+  console.log(
+    `WIP: verifySignature verificationData`,
+    `${pubkey.key}${expiryApplied}${messageHashes.join('')}${resultHashes.join('')}`
+  );
+
+  const sodium = await getSodiumRenderer();
+  try {
+    const isValid = sodium.crypto_sign_verify_detached(
+      fromBase64ToArray(signature),
+      new Uint8Array(verificationData),
+      edKeyPrivBytes
+    );
+
+    return isValid;
+  } catch (e) {
+    window.log.warn('WIP: verifySignature failed with: ', e.message);
+    return false;
+  }
+}
+
+async function processExpirationResults(
+  pubkey: PubKey,
+  targetNode: Snode,
+  swarm: Record<string, any>,
+  messageHashes: Array<string>
+) {
+  if (isEmpty(swarm)) {
+    throw Error(`WIP: expireOnNodes failed! ${messageHashes}`);
+  }
+
+  // TODO need proper typing for swarm and results
+  const results: Record<string, { hashes: Array<string>; expiry: number }> = {};
+  console.log(`WIP: processExpirationResults`, swarm, messageHashes);
+
+  for (const nodeKey of Object.keys(swarm)) {
+    console.log(`WIP: processExpirationResults we got this far`, nodeKey, swarm[nodeKey]);
+    if (!isEmpty(swarm[nodeKey].failed)) {
+      const reason = 'Unknown';
+      const statusCode = '404';
+      window?.log?.warn(
+        `WIP: loki_message:::expireMessage - Couldn't delete data from: ${
+          targetNode.pubkey_ed25519
+        }${reason && statusCode && ` due to an error ${reason} (${statusCode})`}`
+      );
+      // TODO This might be a redundant step
+      results[nodeKey] = { hashes: [], expiry: 0 };
+    }
+
+    const resultHashes = swarm[nodeKey].updated;
+    const expiryApplied = swarm[nodeKey].expiry;
+    const signature = swarm[nodeKey].signature;
+
+    const isValid = await verifySignature({
+      pubkey,
+      snodePubkey: nodeKey,
+      expiryApplied,
+      messageHashes,
+      resultHashes,
+      signature,
+    });
+
+    if (!isValid) {
+      window.log.warn(
+        `WIP: loki_message:::expireMessage - Signature verification failed!`,
+        messageHashes
+      );
+    }
+    results[nodeKey] = { hashes: resultHashes, expiry: expiryApplied };
+  }
+
+  return results;
+}
+
+type ExpireParams = {
+  pubkey: PubKey;
+  messages: Array<string>;
+  expiry: number;
+  signature: string;
+};
+
+async function expireOnNodes(targetNode: Snode, params: ExpireParams) {
+  // THE RPC requires the pubkey needs to be a string but we need the Pubkey for signature processing.
+  const rpcParams = { ...params, pubkey: params.pubkey.key };
+  try {
+    const result = await snodeRpc({
+      method: 'expire',
+      params: rpcParams,
+      targetNode,
+      associatedWith: params.pubkey.key,
+    });
+
+    if (!result || result.status !== 200 || !result.body) {
+      return false;
+    }
+
+    try {
+      const parsed = JSON.parse(result.body);
+      const expirationResults = await processExpirationResults(
+        params.pubkey,
+        targetNode,
+        parsed.swarm,
+        params.messages
+      );
+
+      console.log(`WIP: expireOnNodes attempt complete. Here are the results`, expirationResults);
+
+      return true;
+    } catch (e) {
+      window?.log?.warn('WIP: Failed to parse "swarm" result: ', e.msg);
+    }
+    return false;
+  } catch (e) {
+    window?.log?.warn(
+      'WIP: store - send error:',
+      e,
+      `destination ${targetNode.ip}:${targetNode.port}`
+    );
+    throw e;
+  }
+}
+
+export async function expireMessageOnSnode(messageHash: string, expireTimer: number) {
+  console.log(`WIP: expireMessageOnSnode running!`);
+  const ourPubKey = UserUtils.getOurPubKeyFromCache();
+  const ourEd25519Key = await UserUtils.getUserED25519KeyPair();
+
+  if (!ourPubKey || !ourEd25519Key) {
+    window.log.info(`WIP: expireMessageOnSnode failed!`, messageHash);
+    return;
+  }
+
+  const swarm = await getSwarmFor(ourPubKey.key);
+
+  const expiry = getNowWithNetworkOffset() + expireTimer;
+  const signResult = await generateSignature({
+    pubkey_ed25519: ourEd25519Key,
+    timestamp: expiry,
+    messageHashes: [messageHash],
+  });
+
+  if (!signResult) {
+    window.log.info(`WIP: Signing message expiry on swarm failed!`, messageHash);
+    return;
+  }
+
+  const params = {
+    pubkey: ourPubKey,
+    pubkey_ed25519: ourEd25519Key.pubKey,
+    // TODO better testing for failed case
+    // messages: ['WabEZS4RH/NrDhm8vh1gXK4xSmyJL1d4BUC/Ho6GRxA'],
+    messages: [messageHash],
+    expiry,
+    signature: signResult?.signature,
+  };
+
+  const usedNodes = slice(swarm, 0, DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS);
+  if (!usedNodes || usedNodes.length === 0) {
+    throw new EmptySwarmError(ourPubKey.key, 'Ran out of swarm nodes to query');
+  }
+
+  const promises = usedNodes.map(async usedNode => {
+    const successfulSend = await expireOnNodes(usedNode, params);
+    if (successfulSend) {
+      return usedNode;
+    }
+    return undefined;
+  });
+
+  let snode: Snode | undefined;
+  try {
+    const firstSuccessSnode = await firstTrue(promises);
+    console.log(`WIP: expireMessageOnSnode firstSuccessSnode`, firstSuccessSnode);
+  } catch (e) {
+    const snodeStr = snode ? `${snode.ip}:${snode.port}` : 'null';
+    window?.log?.warn(
+      `WIP: loki_message:::expireMessage - ${e.code} ${e.message} by ${ourPubKey} for ${messageHash} via snode:${snodeStr}`
+    );
+    throw e;
+  }
+}
diff --git a/ts/session/messages/outgoing/visibleMessage/VisibleMessage.ts b/ts/session/messages/outgoing/visibleMessage/VisibleMessage.ts
index 1ee4701ac..1c0bbdb10 100644
--- a/ts/session/messages/outgoing/visibleMessage/VisibleMessage.ts
+++ b/ts/session/messages/outgoing/visibleMessage/VisibleMessage.ts
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ import { SignalService } from '../../../../protobuf';
 import { LokiProfile } from '../../../../types/Message';
 import { Reaction } from '../../../../types/Reaction';
 import { DisappearingMessageType } from '../../../../util/expiringMessages';
+import { DURATION, TTL_DEFAULT } from '../../../constants';
 import { MessageParams } from '../Message';
 
 interface AttachmentPointerCommon {
@@ -198,6 +199,17 @@ export class VisibleMessage extends ContentMessage {
   public isEqual(comparator: VisibleMessage): boolean {
     return this.identifier === comparator.identifier && this.timestamp === comparator.timestamp;
   }
+
+  public ttl(): number {
+    switch (this.expirationType) {
+      case 'deleteAfterSend':
+        return this.expireTimer ? this.expireTimer * DURATION.SECONDS : TTL_DEFAULT.TTL_MAX;
+      case 'deleteAfterRead':
+        return TTL_DEFAULT.TTL_MAX;
+      default:
+        return TTL_DEFAULT.TTL_MAX;
+    }
+  }
 }
 
 export function buildProfileForOutgoingMessage(params: { lokiProfile?: LokiProfile }) {
diff --git a/ts/session/sending/MessageSender.ts b/ts/session/sending/MessageSender.ts
index 62742812e..6022704c1 100644
--- a/ts/session/sending/MessageSender.ts
+++ b/ts/session/sending/MessageSender.ts
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ import { OpenGroupMessageV2 } from '../apis/open_group_api/opengroupV2/OpenGroup
 import { fromUInt8ArrayToBase64 } from '../utils/String';
 import { OpenGroupVisibleMessage } from '../messages/outgoing/visibleMessage/OpenGroupVisibleMessage';
 import { addMessagePadding } from '../crypto/BufferPadding';
-import _ from 'lodash';
+import _, { isString, slice } from 'lodash';
 import { getNowWithNetworkOffset, storeOnNode } from '../apis/snode_api/SNodeAPI';
 import { getSwarmFor } from '../apis/snode_api/snodePool';
 import { firstTrue } from '../utils/Promise';
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ import {
 } from '../apis/open_group_api/sogsv3/sogsV3SendMessage';
 import { AbortController } from 'abort-controller';
 
-const DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS = 1;
+export const DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS = 1;
 
 // ================ SNODE STORE ================
 
@@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ export async function sendMessageToSnode(
     namespace,
   };
 
-  const usedNodes = _.slice(swarm, 0, DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS);
+  const usedNodes = slice(swarm, 0, DEFAULT_CONNECTIONS);
   if (!usedNodes || usedNodes.length === 0) {
     throw new EmptySwarmError(pubKey, 'Ran out of swarm nodes to query');
   }
@@ -190,7 +190,7 @@ export async function sendMessageToSnode(
       );
     }
     if (successfulSend) {
-      if (_.isString(successfulSend)) {
+      if (isString(successfulSend)) {
         successfulSendHash = successfulSend;
       }
       return usedNode;
diff --git a/ts/session/sending/MessageSentHandler.ts b/ts/session/sending/MessageSentHandler.ts
index 8143c82b1..b839340cf 100644
--- a/ts/session/sending/MessageSentHandler.ts
+++ b/ts/session/sending/MessageSentHandler.ts
@@ -70,7 +70,9 @@ async function handleMessageSentSuccess(
     !isOurDevice &&
     !isClosedGroupMessage &&
     !fetchedMessage.get('synced') &&
-    !fetchedMessage.get('sentSync');
+    !fetchedMessage.get('sentSync') &&
+    // TODO not 100% sure about this. Might need to change for synced expiries
+    !fetchedMessage.get('expirationType');
 
   // A message is synced if we triggered a sync message (sentSync)
   // and the current message was sent to our device (so a sync message)
diff --git a/ts/util/expiringMessages.ts b/ts/util/expiringMessages.ts
index 481fb3814..fcc0c27fb 100644
--- a/ts/util/expiringMessages.ts
+++ b/ts/util/expiringMessages.ts
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@ import { initWallClockListener } from './wallClockListener';
 import { Data } from '../data/data';
 import { getConversationController } from '../session/conversations';
 import { MessageModel } from '../models/message';
+import { getNowWithNetworkOffset } from '../session/apis/snode_api/SNodeAPI';
 
 // TODO Might need to be improved by using an enum
 export const DisappearingMessageMode = ['deleteAfterRead', 'deleteAfterSend'];
@@ -206,10 +207,10 @@ export function setExpirationStartTimestamp(
     return null;
   }
 
-  let expirationStartTimestamp = Date.now();
+  let expirationStartTimestamp = getNowWithNetworkOffset();
 
   if (timestamp) {
-    expirationStartTimestamp = Math.max(Date.now(), timestamp);
+    expirationStartTimestamp = Math.min(getNowWithNetworkOffset(), timestamp);
     message.set('expirationStartTimestamp', expirationStartTimestamp);
   }