diff --git a/ts/components/conversation/MessageRequestButtons.tsx b/ts/components/conversation/MessageRequestButtons.tsx
index ffdc58b7c..13872f90d 100644
--- a/ts/components/conversation/MessageRequestButtons.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/conversation/MessageRequestButtons.tsx
@@ -6,10 +6,7 @@ import {
   declineConversationWithConfirm,
 } from '../../interactions/conversationInteractions';
 import { getConversationController } from '../../session/conversations';
-import {
-  getSelectedHasMessages,
-  hasSelectedConversationIncomingMessages,
-} from '../../state/selectors/conversations';
+import { hasSelectedConversationIncomingMessages } from '../../state/selectors/conversations';
 import { useSelectedConversationKey } from '../../state/selectors/selectedConversation';
 import { SessionButton, SessionButtonColor } from '../basic/SessionButton';
 import {
@@ -81,10 +78,9 @@ const handleAcceptConversationRequest = async (convoId: string) => {
 export const ConversationMessageRequestButtons = () => {
   const selectedConvoId = useSelectedConversationKey();
 
-  const hasMessages = useSelector(getSelectedHasMessages);
   const hasIncomingMessages = useSelector(hasSelectedConversationIncomingMessages);
   const isIncomingRequest = useIsIncomingRequest(selectedConvoId);
-  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConvoId, hasMessages);
+  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConvoId);
 
   if (!selectedConvoId || (!isIncomingRequest && !isOutgoingRequest)) {
     return null;
diff --git a/ts/components/conversation/SubtleNotification.tsx b/ts/components/conversation/SubtleNotification.tsx
index 6ec6080b7..86bbc8422 100644
--- a/ts/components/conversation/SubtleNotification.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/conversation/SubtleNotification.tsx
@@ -10,10 +10,12 @@ import {
   useSelectedConversationKey,
   useSelectedHasDisabledBlindedMsgRequests,
   useSelectedIsNoteToSelf,
+  useSelectedIsPrivate,
   useSelectedNicknameOrProfileNameOrShortenedPubkey,
 } from '../../state/selectors/selectedConversation';
 import { LocalizerKeys } from '../../types/LocalizerKeys';
 import { SessionHtmlRenderer } from '../basic/SessionHTMLRenderer';
+import { SessionUtilContact } from '../../session/utils/libsession/libsession_utils_contacts';
 
 const Container = styled.div`
   display: flex;
@@ -35,21 +37,29 @@ const TextInner = styled.div`
  */
 export const ConversationOutgoingRequestExplanation = () => {
   const selectedConversation = useSelectedConversationKey();
-  const hasMessages = useSelector(getSelectedHasMessages);
-  const isOutgoingMessageRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConversation, hasMessages);
+  const isOutgoingMessageRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConversation);
   const hasIncomingMessages = useSelector(hasSelectedConversationIncomingMessages);
 
   const showMsgRequestUI = selectedConversation && isOutgoingMessageRequest;
 
-  if (!showMsgRequestUI || hasIncomingMessages) {
+  const selectedIsPrivate = useSelectedIsPrivate();
+
+  if (!showMsgRequestUI || hasIncomingMessages || !selectedIsPrivate) {
     return null;
   }
-
-  return (
-    <Container data-testid={'empty-conversation-control-message'} style={{ padding: 0 }}>
-      <TextInner>{window.i18n('messageRequestPendingDescription')}</TextInner>
-    </Container>
-  );
+  const contactFromLibsession = SessionUtilContact.getContactCached(selectedConversation);
+  // Note: we want to display this description when the conversation is private (or blinded) AND
+  // - the conversation is brand new (and not saved yet in libsession: transient conversation),
+  // - the conversation exists in libsession but we are not approved yet.
+  // This works because a blinded conversation is not saved in libsession currently, and will only be once approved_me is true
+  if (!contactFromLibsession || !contactFromLibsession.approvedMe) {
+    return (
+      <Container data-testid={'empty-conversation-control-message'} style={{ padding: 0 }}>
+        <TextInner>{window.i18n('messageRequestPendingDescription')}</TextInner>
+      </Container>
+    );
+  }
+  return null;
 };
 
 /**
@@ -80,7 +90,7 @@ export const ConversationIncomingRequestExplanation = () => {
 export const NoMessageInConversation = () => {
   const selectedConversation = useSelectedConversationKey();
 
-  const hasMessage = useSelector(getSelectedHasMessages);
+  const hasMessages = useSelector(getSelectedHasMessages);
 
   const isMe = useSelectedIsNoteToSelf();
   const canWrite = useSelector(getSelectedCanWrite);
@@ -88,7 +98,7 @@ export const NoMessageInConversation = () => {
   // TODOLATER use this selector across the whole application (left pane excluded)
   const nameToRender = useSelectedNicknameOrProfileNameOrShortenedPubkey();
 
-  if (!selectedConversation || hasMessage) {
+  if (!selectedConversation || hasMessages) {
     return null;
   }
   let localizedKey: LocalizerKeys = 'noMessagesInEverythingElse';
diff --git a/ts/components/conversation/composition/CompositionButtons.tsx b/ts/components/conversation/composition/CompositionButtons.tsx
index 47d8d0051..00af99e9d 100644
--- a/ts/components/conversation/composition/CompositionButtons.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/conversation/composition/CompositionButtons.tsx
@@ -1,10 +1,8 @@
 import { forwardRef } from 'react';
 import styled from 'styled-components';
-import { useSelector } from 'react-redux';
 import { useIsOutgoingRequest } from '../../../hooks/useParamSelector';
 import { useSelectedConversationKey } from '../../../state/selectors/selectedConversation';
 import { SessionIconButton } from '../../icon';
-import { getSelectedHasMessages } from '../../../state/selectors/conversations';
 
 const StyledChatButtonContainer = styled.div<{ disabled?: boolean }>`
   .session-icon-button {
@@ -22,8 +20,7 @@ const StyledChatButtonContainer = styled.div<{ disabled?: boolean }>`
 
 export const AddStagedAttachmentButton = (props: { onClick: () => void }) => {
   const selectedConvoKey = useSelectedConversationKey();
-  const hasMessages = useSelector(getSelectedHasMessages);
-  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConvoKey, hasMessages);
+  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConvoKey);
 
   return (
     <StyledChatButtonContainer disabled={isOutgoingRequest}>
diff --git a/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx b/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx
index 0097b6e90..238c7aba6 100644
--- a/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx
@@ -1,8 +1,5 @@
 import { useDispatch, useSelector } from 'react-redux';
-import {
-  getSelectedHasMessages,
-  isMessageSelectionMode,
-} from '../../../state/selectors/conversations';
+import { isMessageSelectionMode } from '../../../state/selectors/conversations';
 
 import { openRightPanel } from '../../../state/ducks/conversations';
 
@@ -16,8 +13,7 @@ import { ConversationHeaderTitle } from './ConversationHeaderTitle';
 export const ConversationHeaderWithDetails = () => {
   const isSelectionMode = useSelector(isMessageSelectionMode);
   const selectedConvoKey = useSelectedConversationKey();
-  const hasMessages = useSelector(getSelectedHasMessages);
-  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConvoKey, hasMessages);
+  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(selectedConvoKey);
 
   const dispatch = useDispatch();
 
diff --git a/ts/components/leftpane/conversation-list-item/MessageItem.tsx b/ts/components/leftpane/conversation-list-item/MessageItem.tsx
index 1cf873f5e..644138225 100644
--- a/ts/components/leftpane/conversation-list-item/MessageItem.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/leftpane/conversation-list-item/MessageItem.tsx
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ import {
   useIsTyping,
   useLastMessage,
 } from '../../../hooks/useParamSelector';
+import { LastMessageStatusType } from '../../../state/ducks/types';
 import { isSearching } from '../../../state/selectors/search';
 import { getIsMessageRequestOverlayShown } from '../../../state/selectors/section';
 import { assertUnreachable } from '../../../types/sqlSharedTypes';
@@ -17,8 +18,6 @@ import { TypingAnimation } from '../../conversation/TypingAnimation';
 import { MessageBody } from '../../conversation/message/message-content/MessageBody';
 import { SessionIcon } from '../../icon';
 import { InteractionItem } from './InteractionItem';
-import { LastMessageStatusType } from '../../../state/ducks/types';
-import { getSelectedHasMessages } from '../../../state/selectors/conversations';
 
 export const MessageItem = () => {
   const conversationId = useConvoIdFromContext();
@@ -28,8 +27,7 @@ export const MessageItem = () => {
   const hasUnread = useHasUnread(conversationId);
   const isConvoTyping = useIsTyping(conversationId);
   const isMessageRequest = useSelector(getIsMessageRequestOverlayShown);
-  const hasMessages = useSelector(getSelectedHasMessages);
-  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(conversationId, hasMessages);
+  const isOutgoingRequest = useIsOutgoingRequest(conversationId);
 
   const isSearchingMode = useSelector(isSearching);
 
diff --git a/ts/hooks/useParamSelector.ts b/ts/hooks/useParamSelector.ts
index cd212c4d1..142a65471 100644
--- a/ts/hooks/useParamSelector.ts
+++ b/ts/hooks/useParamSelector.ts
@@ -194,7 +194,7 @@ export function useIsIncomingRequest(convoId?: string) {
   );
 }
 
-export function useIsOutgoingRequest(convoId?: string, hasMessages?: boolean) {
+export function useIsOutgoingRequest(convoId?: string) {
   const convoProps = useConversationPropsById(convoId);
   if (!convoProps) {
     return false;
@@ -209,7 +209,6 @@ export function useIsOutgoingRequest(convoId?: string, hasMessages?: boolean) {
         isPrivate: convoProps.isPrivate || false,
         isBlocked: convoProps.isBlocked || false,
         activeAt: convoProps.activeAt || 0,
-        hasMessages,
       })
   );
 }
diff --git a/ts/models/conversation.ts b/ts/models/conversation.ts
index 381b794b0..03e2fcd68 100644
--- a/ts/models/conversation.ts
+++ b/ts/models/conversation.ts
@@ -2588,7 +2588,6 @@ export function hasValidOutgoingRequestValues({
   isBlocked,
   isPrivate,
   activeAt,
-  hasMessages,
 }: {
   isMe: boolean;
   isApproved: boolean;
@@ -2596,13 +2595,11 @@ export function hasValidOutgoingRequestValues({
   isBlocked: boolean;
   isPrivate: boolean;
   activeAt: number;
-  hasMessages?: boolean;
 }): boolean {
   const isActive = activeAt && isFinite(activeAt) && activeAt > 0;
 
   // Started a new message, but haven't sent a message yet
-  const emptyConvo =
-    !hasMessages && !isMe && !isApproved && isPrivate && !isBlocked && !didApproveMe && !!isActive;
+  const emptyConvo = !isMe && !isApproved && isPrivate && !isBlocked && !didApproveMe && !!isActive;
 
   // Started a new message, and sent a message
   const sentOutgoingRequest =